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Jun. 7th, 2010 10:39 amКак-то жутковато звучит: Либерман и Аялон вылетели в США для разъяснительной работы
По моим прикидкам к концу этой недели мировые СМИ должны были забыть об инциденте. Но не тут-то было! Мы не дадим костру угаснуть!
Б-же, какие ушлепки...
По моим прикидкам к концу этой недели мировые СМИ должны были забыть об инциденте. Но не тут-то было! Мы не дадим костру угаснуть!
Б-же, какие ушлепки...
Пошел в занд, прахвессор!
Jun. 7th, 2010 01:58 pmОказывается, "изобретатели еврейского народа" забросили свои сионистские щупальцы в глубины пространство, времени и материи. Патамушто:
Abraham's Children in the Genome Era: Major Jewish Diaspora Populations Comprise Distinct Genetic Clusters with Shared Middle Eastern Ancestry
Gil Atzmon1, 2, 6, Li Hao3, 6, 7, Itsik Pe'er4, 6, Christopher Velez3, Alexander Pearlman3, Pier Francesco Palamara4, Bernice Morrow2, Eitan Friedman5, Carole Oddoux3, Edward Burns1 and Harry Ostrer3, ,
1 Department of Medicine, Albert Einstein College of Medicine, Bronx, NY 10461, USA
2 Department of Genetics, Albert Einstein College of Medicine, Bronx, NY 10461, USA
3 Human Genetics Program, Department of Pediatrics, New York University School of Medicine, New York, NY 10016, USA
4 Department of Computer Science, Columbia University, New York, NY 10025, USA
5 The Susanne Levy Gertner Oncogenetics Unit, the Danek Gertner Institute of Human Genetics, Chaim Sheba Medical Center, 52621, Tel-Hashomer, and the Sackler School of Medicine, Tel-Aviv University, 69978 Tel-Aviv, Israel
Abstract
For more than a century, Jews and non-Jews alike have tried to define the relatedness of contemporary Jewish people. Previous genetic studies of blood group and serum markers suggested that Jewish groups had Middle Eastern origin with greater genetic similarity between paired Jewish populations. However, these and successor studies of monoallelic Y chromosomal and mitochondrial genetic markers did not resolve the issues of within and between-group Jewish genetic identity. Here, genome-wide analysis of seven Jewish groups (Iranian, Iraqi, Syrian, Italian, Turkish, Greek, and Ashkenazi) and comparison with non-Jewish groups demonstrated distinctive Jewish population clusters, each with shared Middle Eastern ancestry, proximity to contemporary Middle Eastern populations, and variable degrees of European and North African admixture. Two major groups were identified by principal component, phylogenetic, and identity by descent (IBD) analysis: Middle Eastern Jews and European/Syrian Jews. The IBD segment sharing and the proximity of European Jews to each other and to southern European populations suggested similar origins for European Jewry and refuted large-scale genetic contributions of Central and Eastern European and Slavic populations to the formation of Ashkenazi Jewry. Rapid decay of IBD in Ashkenazi Jewish genomes was consistent with a severe bottleneck followed by large expansion, such as occurred with the so-called demographic miracle of population expansion from 50,000 people at the beginning of the 15th century to 5,000,000 people at the beginning of the 19th century. Thus, this study demonstrates that European/Syrian and Middle Eastern Jews represent a series of geographical isolates or clusters woven together by shared IBD genetic threads.
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Abraham's Children in the Genome Era: Major Jewish Diaspora Populations Comprise Distinct Genetic Clusters with Shared Middle Eastern Ancestry
Gil Atzmon1, 2, 6, Li Hao3, 6, 7, Itsik Pe'er4, 6, Christopher Velez3, Alexander Pearlman3, Pier Francesco Palamara4, Bernice Morrow2, Eitan Friedman5, Carole Oddoux3, Edward Burns1 and Harry Ostrer3, ,
1 Department of Medicine, Albert Einstein College of Medicine, Bronx, NY 10461, USA
2 Department of Genetics, Albert Einstein College of Medicine, Bronx, NY 10461, USA
3 Human Genetics Program, Department of Pediatrics, New York University School of Medicine, New York, NY 10016, USA
4 Department of Computer Science, Columbia University, New York, NY 10025, USA
5 The Susanne Levy Gertner Oncogenetics Unit, the Danek Gertner Institute of Human Genetics, Chaim Sheba Medical Center, 52621, Tel-Hashomer, and the Sackler School of Medicine, Tel-Aviv University, 69978 Tel-Aviv, Israel
Abstract
For more than a century, Jews and non-Jews alike have tried to define the relatedness of contemporary Jewish people. Previous genetic studies of blood group and serum markers suggested that Jewish groups had Middle Eastern origin with greater genetic similarity between paired Jewish populations. However, these and successor studies of monoallelic Y chromosomal and mitochondrial genetic markers did not resolve the issues of within and between-group Jewish genetic identity. Here, genome-wide analysis of seven Jewish groups (Iranian, Iraqi, Syrian, Italian, Turkish, Greek, and Ashkenazi) and comparison with non-Jewish groups demonstrated distinctive Jewish population clusters, each with shared Middle Eastern ancestry, proximity to contemporary Middle Eastern populations, and variable degrees of European and North African admixture. Two major groups were identified by principal component, phylogenetic, and identity by descent (IBD) analysis: Middle Eastern Jews and European/Syrian Jews. The IBD segment sharing and the proximity of European Jews to each other and to southern European populations suggested similar origins for European Jewry and refuted large-scale genetic contributions of Central and Eastern European and Slavic populations to the formation of Ashkenazi Jewry. Rapid decay of IBD in Ashkenazi Jewish genomes was consistent with a severe bottleneck followed by large expansion, such as occurred with the so-called demographic miracle of population expansion from 50,000 people at the beginning of the 15th century to 5,000,000 people at the beginning of the 19th century. Thus, this study demonstrates that European/Syrian and Middle Eastern Jews represent a series of geographical isolates or clusters woven together by shared IBD genetic threads.
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herr_und_knecht ![[info]](https://l-stat.livejournal.com/img/userinfo.gif){kind=small} herr_und_knecht 2010-06-07 01:38 pm (local) (ссылка)  | |
| У Занда есть целая глава, посвященная генетическим исследованиям, где он пытается доказать противоречивый и непоследовательный характер их результатов. Но, в любом случае, я думаю, что верно утверждения Аристотеля о том, что в каждой области действуют ее собственные критерии точности; именно поэтому важно принимать во внимание, что книга Занда - это текст теолого-политический, и совершенно бесполезно пытаться опровергать его результатами генетических исследований (это имело бы смысл, если бы Занд был генетиком и утверждал, что смог доказать отсутствие какой бы то ни было генетической общности между евреями.) (Ответить) (Уровень выше)(Ветвь дискуссии) |
 | profi 2010-06-07 01:47 pm (local) (ссылка)  Комментарий добавлен |
| 1. -- есть целая глава -- Это - самые свежие данные. И, на сегодняшний день - самые надежные. Как человек с образованием и специализацией Занда пытается доказать противоречивый и непоследовательный характер их результатов я даже боюсь себе представить. Думаю, это посильнее "Фауста" Гете будет. 2. Про "критерии точности". Если теолого-политический текст противоречит естественнонаучным данным, цена его научной состоятельности - ноль без палочки. Вернее - это просто фоменковщина. У Фоменко проблемы с радиоуглеродным и электронно-спиновым датированием, а у Занда - с генетикой. Ну просто такая альтернативная историйка. Обычное фуфло. |
Заранее извиняюсь
Jun. 7th, 2010 07:09 pmЗа все комменты, на которые не отвечу до субботы.
Мне в Европу. Часа на два-три. По делу. Вот сегодня в ночь и двинусь. Счастливо оставаться.